Leyla Novruz Full Podcast Episode #30
# Navigating Uncertainty: Lessons from Alice in Wonderland
> Discover how storytelling shapes our professional journeys with Leila Novras.
In this episode, we delve into the enchanting world of stories, particularly through the lens of Lewis Carroll's *Alice in Wonderland*. David Oxley and Helmut discuss how this seemingly whimsical tale serves as a profound allegory for navigating the complexities of professional life.
## The Layers of Storytelling
David begins by reflecting on how our professional lives often require us to wear different masks and adapt to various roles. He notes,
> "The best books have lots of different layers to them, that there is the superficial story and then there are the stories that are embedded beneath them."
In this spirit, he draws a parallel to their work in creating stories that embed deeper truths while remaining entertaining.
## A Career through Uncertainty
The conversation shifts to their guest, Leila Novras, founder of Transformative Coaching Inc. Leila shares her remarkable journey from an assistant to a vice president in a male-dominated industry. She highlights that her career has been filled with layers of experiences shaped by historical changes and geographical transitions.
Leila remarks,
> "Some people interpret *Alice in Wonderland* as a story about finding the right direction. But I think it's more about how to live in uncertainty."
She emphasizes the importance of movement and adaptability in navigating one's career path, echoing a famous quote from Carroll:
> "It takes all the running you can do to stay in the same place."
## Embracing Change and Coaching Others
Reflecting on her own transition from corporate life to coaching, Leila acknowledges the challenges of stepping into a new role without the safety net of a large organization. Yet, she appreciates the journey, stating,
> "I brought everything that I enjoyed in my corporate life into my current life."
As a coach, she now focuses on helping others find their direction amidst uncertainty, asking clients,
> "Where do you want to go?"
## Conclusion
The episode offers a rich tapestry of insights into how storytelling and personal experiences can guide us in our professional journeys. Leila's perspective on navigating uncertainty resonates deeply in today's fast-paced world. Her story reminds us that, much like Alice, we must embrace the unknown and continue moving forward.
For a deeper exploration of these themes and more inspiring stories, listen to the full episode with Leila Novras.
> Discover how storytelling shapes our professional journeys with Leila Novras.
In this episode, we delve into the enchanting world of stories, particularly through the lens of Lewis Carroll's *Alice in Wonderland*. David Oxley and Helmut discuss how this seemingly whimsical tale serves as a profound allegory for navigating the complexities of professional life.
## The Layers of Storytelling
David begins by reflecting on how our professional lives often require us to wear different masks and adapt to various roles. He notes,
> "The best books have lots of different layers to them, that there is the superficial story and then there are the stories that are embedded beneath them."
In this spirit, he draws a parallel to their work in creating stories that embed deeper truths while remaining entertaining.
## A Career through Uncertainty
The conversation shifts to their guest, Leila Novras, founder of Transformative Coaching Inc. Leila shares her remarkable journey from an assistant to a vice president in a male-dominated industry. She highlights that her career has been filled with layers of experiences shaped by historical changes and geographical transitions.
Leila remarks,
> "Some people interpret *Alice in Wonderland* as a story about finding the right direction. But I think it's more about how to live in uncertainty."
She emphasizes the importance of movement and adaptability in navigating one's career path, echoing a famous quote from Carroll:
> "It takes all the running you can do to stay in the same place."
## Embracing Change and Coaching Others
Reflecting on her own transition from corporate life to coaching, Leila acknowledges the challenges of stepping into a new role without the safety net of a large organization. Yet, she appreciates the journey, stating,
> "I brought everything that I enjoyed in my corporate life into my current life."
As a coach, she now focuses on helping others find their direction amidst uncertainty, asking clients,
> "Where do you want to go?"
## Conclusion
The episode offers a rich tapestry of insights into how storytelling and personal experiences can guide us in our professional journeys. Leila's perspective on navigating uncertainty resonates deeply in today's fast-paced world. Her story reminds us that, much like Alice, we must embrace the unknown and continue moving forward.
For a deeper exploration of these themes and more inspiring stories, listen to the full episode with Leila Novras.
Creators and Guests
Host
David Oxley
Dr Oxley is a dual UK/US citizen based in Austin, Texas. David started his career as a management consultant before leading major people and corporate restructuring projects for BP PLC across Europe, USA, India, and the Middle East. He worked closely with Reliance Industries in India, one of BP’s partners, as they embarked on their big corporate restructuring. He currently spends his time researching and writing on future career trends for publications around the world including Fast Company, Forbes, Big Think, Reader’s Digest, and HR Today where he also serves as a member of the global advisory board. David was awarded his doctorate in Organizational Change at Cranfield University and his MBA from the University of Notre Dame.
Host
Helmut Schuster
Dr Schuster is a dual Austrian/British citizen who lives in London, UK. He is the former Group HR Director of BP PLC and Chairman of the Board for Ivocar Vivadent. He currently serves on the board of several dynamic start-up businesses including ExpectAI, a Greentech enterprise. Helmut is an active entrepreneur, investor, and frequent contributor to leadership and AFS Cultural programs. He completed his PhD in Economics from the University of Vienna.
Guest
Leyla Novruz
Leyla Novruz is a prominent New York-based career and leadership coach and the founder of Transformative Coaching Inc.. Leveraging over 25 years of international human resources experience, including an extensive corporate tenure at BP, she guides professionals to reach their peak capability. Leyla specializes in executive advancement, strategic mindset shifts, and corporate navigation, empowering ambitious individuals to overcome growth barriers, accelerate their leadership development, and build fulfilling, high-impact careers.
